What large Null sec alliance does not have a ship replacement program?

But what's wrong with ship replacement programs?

So thank you Andski and apparently you, Aruken Marr are actually the illiterate imbecile as you apparently cannot read the word Large.

But thank you for the spelling lesson.

My apologies if SMA standing 15th on the list is to poor to afford a ship replacement program, might I subsequently suggest that Goonswarm has a really nice ship replacement program and that its current members might like to move out of the poor house and into something profitable.
Or maybe -A- I hear they might like an extra 2000 members atm.

I am not dodging the point if an alliance has over 2000 members and can't afford a SRP then it is either new (to be honest I haven't followed that alliance) or it has something wrong with how its doing its finances or its actually padded its numbers with a lot of alts.

And again I would point them to Goonswarm or one of the other alliances.

Other alliances have other priorities. SMA reimburses losses in strategic fleets, so they have an SRP similar to that of most other alliances, but they don't have a peacetime reimbursement program like GSF or TNT.

Actually I was going to apologize, in your attacks I missed that you do have a SRP just not for peace time, so once again my statement that your do not have risk with ships is only partially true in that case.

So I guess that only makes you partially risk averse.

Just because you cannot afford to do it does not make it broken, it just means you are choosing not to risk it.

I cannot afford to buy a Dreads and lose them multiple times without becoming bankrupt, does that mean that system is broken? or instead of flying dreads in PvP I could fly brutix and then have to worry a lot less about the numbers I loose. Just like putting in +2 or +3 implants instead of +5s.

If the noobs you hang around with think they need +5s then you're doing a terrible job of educating them. A pair of +3 implants costs, at most, 20 million ISK. If they can't afford that or can't figure out how to install a jump clone they don't deserve implants.

I dont know Aruken? What do you tell them? HTFU? Stop crying? Go back to highsec? Steal mommy's credit card and buy some PLEX? How should I know what terrible advice you're offering to the idiots you hang around with?

Its a progression thing. You don't want newbies to rush to a BS who don't know how to properly fly it nor afford to lose it, that's why you go through the paces. Eve isn't about instant gratification, its not about streamlining to the top. You work your way up. Having newbies think that they NEED to be inline with players who are 5-6 year vets is a poor mentality and argument. That's usually where most fail and end up quitting. They see everyone else in a T3 or BS and rush too it, get it blown up then they are broke. That's not a game mechanic problem that's a mentality issue. Same goes for implants.

Once again if you do bump attributes up +5 and remove learning implants, then people will just look at that as baseline and want more ways to speed it up, it would be a endless cycle. So look at non implant speed as normal and any increase is a bonus, not mandatory.

As I stated in the 2nd part. Implants allow those who wish to spend the money to get a advantage over the norm, and since this is Eve there is risk attached to said advantage. You remove that and people who want that advantage and those who like to min/max **** will be asking for it again. Having implants the way it is, is a good balance for those who want a advantage and those who want to destroy that advantage.

Edit: Guess I should have quoted who I was talking too.

First, nobody is exempt from the risk of losing their implants. People get podded in highsec all the time. That was a terrible choice of an argument on your part. Second, of course the risk of losing your pod IS and SHOULD be higher in nullsec. That's one of the great things about nullsec is the increased risk.

The only things that REALLY makes nullsec that much more of a danger to pods than empire are:

1.) Smartbombs/large fleet fights. These aren't going away.
2.) Bubbles.

Why are you arguing for a removal of learning implants rather than a small change to bubble mechanics?

Because they reship faster, get on a titan and get bridged back in to shoot you?

I guess there was no "list of obvious reasons", then? You just made that up?

This.

Bottom line is it would still make more sense to me to change bubbles (e.g. pods can warp within two seconds or something before their warp drive gets messed up) than to remove learning implants entirely.

Reducing the clone jump timer for clone jumping in the same station is something I can get behind (it should still be significant, say, 8-12 hours). However, removing learning implants entirely is not something I will ever support.

Heh, thats the downside to podding someone. Imagine what it's like when you get an FC out of system completely. There's atleast 15mins before he can get back and take the reigns again.

I need to stop rushing my posts and start covering my ass...

A Vindicator in Forsaken Hubs makes ~40-50m ticks but it requires near-perfect skills and hardwirings (which I conveniently have on an alt, 'heh')

But even though it may be Highly Efficient Ratting it's still ratting~